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顶！好文！ 再补充两个偏一点的专业：HR，SMALL BUNIESS
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by 7y7 (醉里吴音) at 2004.5.23 09:14


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HR是本地人为主的专业，即使本地人也挺难找工作。前几年经济不好，有个同学3年里被勒2次，和做MARKETING的同学打平 ：—（

SMALL BUSINESS一部分是针对小业主，怎么提高中小型企业管理水平。也可以给政府有关部门做CONSULTING，加拿大经济以中小企业为主，政府在扶持方面下了很多功夫。MBA因为身价高一般是给大企业培养的，这个专业好像不多。

对BEER的几点补充： [ 相约加拿大:枫下论坛 rolia.net/forum ]
1. CONSULTING：
财务方向也有，四大CA事务所都有自己的CONSULTING业务，剥离出来后仍然很强，一小时收费2、3百不稀奇，其中第一代中国人移民似乎不少，我先生公司正在做SOX，有次开会半屋子中国面孔

2. FINANCE
我拿到过唯一的银行面试是CUSTOMER REP。对于缺乏工作经验的MBA毕业生，这可能是进银行最容易的职位。MBA做REP一般是接待大客户，大企业觉得比较有面子吧。有些要求说英语、法语。 ＜ r o l i a. n e t ＞

3. MARKETING
做SALES的MBA也不少，主要集中在制药行业，因为起薪很高。那行的同学说制药企业开始雇佣少数族裔第一代移民，因为医药业少数族裔医生越来越多。（真是人多力量大，同胞们加油啊）

4. PROJECT MANAGEMENT { 枫下论坛 rolia.net/forum }
我先生说这行前途看好，等他拿到持牌会计师，下一个就想考这个，是结合工程师和财务背景的有力工具。

5. SCM
行业太新，仍然是经验最重要，对MBA毕业生不太感冒。
P.LOG是行业最硬的证书，必备的敲门砖。 ＜ 相约加拿大 ROLIA.NET ＞

我读的学校一般，地点又偏，所以来招人的很少 ：－）
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by 7y7 (醉里吴音) at 2004.5.23 11:17


现在因为背景IT+FINANCE+几年加拿大经验，倒是有在银行的朋友来问有没有兴趣。我想了想觉得银行、咨询公司这类地方名校MBA无数，而目前在的传统企业还是挺把MBA当回事的，此外除了月底4点就回家做饭，不想拼命了。

再说一家两口子扑事业就没人顾家了，商量下来还是我牺牲，做饭管帐理家抵得上半份工（亏了，其实比上班更忙）

另，不知BEER大虾有兴趣参加YAHOO GROUP么？请给我来个E： evesun21@yahoo.com
你要能来说几句，追随者如云 ：－）

读MBA以前觉得MBA一定要读最好的学校的,起码是加拿大最好的学校之一的. 但是...
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by dwhite (haha) at 2004.5.24 02:40


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毕业之后才发现加国的雇主对你是哪一所学校的毕业的并不是多么看中.感觉好象是所谓的:烂"校的MBA也一样很有前途. 当然我没有任何小看你的意思,相反对你的坦诚很欣赏.其实我觉得不管哪所学校毕业, MBA的成功要看这个人潜质, 以前的专业背景,充满信心的追求,洋溢的活力和热情, 以及最重要的运气.同时我也有看到很多的"一般"学校的MBA们也都很出色,顺利或是成功. 象我们中国人MBA多数都是在30岁上下才毕业的,所以从家庭看,从语言文化背景看,从个人的生活状况看, CONSULTING和I-BANKING真的不太合适我们的.也许我们可以进到这些领域, 但是你为之付出的代价也是很高的. 美国TOP10的MBA在WALL STREET工作的人很多都只有26.27岁. 和他们接触以后有这样的感觉,就是在SUPER SATURDAY后那到个OFFER(150-200K)一阵狂喜,然后准备每周工作90-100小时,这样持续5-6年, 那时在那条街上做的MBA们应该可以期望500K的年收入了, 没有家庭,单身生活,连洗澡都会在办公室里,可以攒下个2-3M,就跳槽到轻松的部门或自己开个公司.
所以说我们中国人聪明, WALL STREET不好去,去了也不好玩, 不如踏踏实实地或做传统银行工作,或找个大企业做FINANCE. 我觉得这是我们第一代移民比较现实稳当的途经.
77和BEER都是很理智的聪明人. 20几岁的人只知道什么都能做, 30岁以后才知道很多事情是做不来的, 这就是成熟呀. 所以PRE-MBA们, 别只想CONSULTING和I-BANKING, 拿出一半的热情和努力,你一样会在你熟悉的领域里成功的.

正在搜索MBA的信息, 贴一个关于如何选择MBA的文章: 1)JUST WANTING AN MBA IS NOT ENOUGH

by beautiful-life (塞翁失马) at 2002.8.2 00:01


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The strongest candidates competing to gain admission to graduate business schools are focused on their careers; they are clear about what is needed to get there and what it takes to be successful. Can you compete favorably? The only way to answer this question is to go through a self-assessment process
that will help you identify your personal and career goals—prior to looking at business schools (b-schools).

The MBA is a professional degree designed for people who need formalized training across the business disciplines, to capitalize on one or more specific areas of business. The MBA program length is too short to provide you with sufficient time to discover an affinity for a particular business profession while in school. Therefore, b-school admissions counselors expect to see evidence of your professional interests to ensure that you will take full advantage of the MBA.

Following are a few sure signs that you are not ready for b-school:
•When asked about post-MBA career aspirations, you give vague responses such as: “I want to manage people,” or “I want to be in management.”
• You do not have a clear idea what to do with, much less without, an MBA.
• You seek to avoid the job market by buying additional time in school, in an attempt to determine what to do.

Exhibiting undirected thinking or behavior might prevent you from gaining admission to an MBA program. More importantly, you will limit your return on investment if you blindly choose a school or are ill-prepared to take advantage of its educational opportunities. The MBA is very different from other graduate degrees,
in which academic promise is considered paramount in the admissions process. At a minimum, b-school admissions officers consider career history and aspirations, evidence of leadership potential, and academic achievement. Therefore, the typical MBA candidate has several years of fulltime, post-undergraduate work experience in some responsible capacity. who present themselves and
their credentials well. ＜ 相约加拿大 ROLIA.NET ＞

2) EXAMINE YOUR GOALS: DO A SELF-ASSESSMENT

by beautiful-life (塞翁失马) at 2002.8.2 00:03


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A good self-assessment process will help you establish specific career and educational goals that utilize your strengths and address weaknesses. Lacking specific goals, you will be searching for a school
without direction. How will you eliminate options, much less make a choice you will be happy with in the end? How will you determine whether the MBA experience was a good value? Whenever you are considering major changes in your life, self-assessment can help you clarify your goals and make wise decisions.

Develop clear answers to the following questions: ＜ r o l i a. n e t ＞
• Why do you want or need an MBA?
• Do you have evidence from people in your chosen field that the MBA is a logical next step for you?
• Do you have natural aptitudes that others notice? Do those skills lend
• Do you feel strongly about some function and/or industry within business? { 枫下论坛 rolia.net/forum }
• Do you need any additional resources (training, financial, personal, or professional)
to achieve your long-term plans?
• Are you ready to be a student again? Do you have the discipline and drive?
• How will you fund your MBA education?
• If you do not pursue an MBA, what are your options? ＜ 相约加拿大 ROLIA.NET ＞

3)Rewards and Risks of MBA ( S E L F - A S S E S S M E N T and D I R E C T I O N)

by beautiful-life (就快解放了) at 2002.8.9 11:20


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REWARDS OF GOOD PLANNING,
S E L F - A S S E S S M E N T A N D D I R E C T I O N :

• Identifying b-schools that correspond to your interests and aptitudes especially in curriculum,
placement, and reputation.
• Establishing a clear direction on which courses to take, which faculty relationships to cultivate, which companies or industries to research and track, and where you need to network. Moreover, because you can identify the critical elective courses early, you can acquire the appropriate knowledge to showcase technical skills required for specific job interviews.
• Developing rewarding relationships with classmates who share your interests. [ 相约加拿大:枫下论坛 rolia.net/forum ]
• Achieving a significant return on your investment of time and money in an MBA education.



RISKS OF INADEQUAT E P L A N N I N G ,
S E L F - A S S E S S M E N T A N D D I R E C T I O N :

• Enrolling in one b-school only to realize that another school would have better suited your
objectives both academically and professionally. (Note: Most b-schools do not readily accept transfer
candidates, much less course work.)
• Remaining undecided when you must choose your concentration of study and register for elective courses. (See Aligning MBA Functional Specialties with Career Paths, page 8.)
• Deciding on your career goals too late—resulting in missed MBA job opportunities.
• Failing to develop a network of professionals in your chosen field.
•Wasting valuable time and money in the hopes of figuring out what you want to do.

Yes, MBAs earn big money, but…
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MBAs are prepared to be accountable for employees, budgets, deadlines, and other major responsibilities. Are you?

Higher incomes carry with them greater risks associated with increased responsibilities. MBAs
know that their jobs are on the line.

Employers expect MBAs to produce stellar work and maintain demanding hours. Most MBAs accept all of the above demands because they are truly ＜ 相约加拿大 ROLIA.NET ＞interested in their fields. Pursue your business interests first, and the money should follow.

4)NETWORKING IN THE BUSINESS WORLD

by beautiful-life (就快解放了) at 2002.8.9 11:23


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Perhaps the best way you can prepare yourself for potential careers is to talk to people who are doing the type of work you might want to pursue. This process is called “informational interviewing.”

The value of informational interviewing is that you are not under any pressure to sell yourself as you would be in a job interview. You are simply using the meeting as an opportunity to get advice and information on possible career paths. Professionals, who may be less willing to talk to you as a job applicant, will often take the time to share their experiences and offer advice as you move through the
b-school process.

As you near MBA graduation, individuals in your network should know you well and may assist in your job search in the early stages of networking, you should cultivate at least one mentor. At this stage, it is not necessary for you to know the job you want with 100% certainty, but you must at least have some
direction. If not, you are not ready for business school. ＜ 相约加拿大 ROLIA.NET ＞

5)YOUR INVESTMENT OF TIME AND MONEY

by beautiful-life (就快解放了) at 2002.8.9 11:28


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So far, you have determined one or more interesting industries or job functions, and you have gathered information from individuals in those fields. This information has shown you the merits of an MBA degree.

The next step is to evaluate the financial implications of your potential MBA investment. Graduate school is likely to be the most substantial investment you will ever make in yourself. Given that 70% of MBAs borrow funds to pay for their education, ask yourself if you are willing to make a similar commitment.
Before proceeding further, you must weigh the costs and benefits of pursuing an MBA.


COSTS:
• Look at the total tuition cost required to complete the degree. This cost may be offset by any scholarships you may receive based on your relative competitiveness. Note: If you are planning to pursue your degree anywhere other than in your country of citizenship, your associated costs will be higher. Keep in mind, if scholarships are not available to you, your ability to borrow might be severely limited both in your home country and in the country where you wish to study.
• Weigh lost income against improved job flexibility and the ability to return to the job market at a higher salary.
• If considering a part-time program, weigh the value of remaining employed and spreading out tuition payments against the prospects of staying at a pre-MBA salary longer. Also consider whether tuition reimbursement (if offered by your employer) is worth the obligation and reduced career mobility.
• Anticipate loan interest and principal repayment schedules.
• If applicable, factor in relocation expenses and the differential in living expenses once you are in school.
• Do not forget MBA school search and job search costs, including application fees and corporate networking visits.

BENEFITS:
• The education opens doors to a range of employment opportunities across industries.
• The degree provides a foundation for upward career mobility and expanded management responsibility.
• An MBA program teaches you how to increase your marketability.

TIP: Use your network and informational interviews to determine:

by beautiful-life (就快解放了) at 2002.8.9 11:32


• if a certain career path still seems appealing to you after learning more about it;
• if an MBA seems essential, or helpful, to individuals in that career path;
• whether a particular type of prior work experience or MBA internship seems important;
• what gaps exist in your background, experience, or training that could prevent you from achieving your goals;
• if there are ways to enter your chosen field without an MBA;
• what expectations and preferences employers in a particular industry may
have; and
• how to fine-tune your career plans and related school objectives.